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    The tribes and castes of the Punjab

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    It is an unfortunate fact that many of us think of Pakistan as an undifferentiated land mass, with a homogeneous population. The wonderful diversity and variation of Pakistani people is entirely lost.

    Let us look at the different tribes and sects of the Punjab first, and then at other provinces of Pakistan as well, and see for ourselves how diverse the people are.
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    Just a caution.

    My intention is to spread information, not share the output of original research. These notes are copied from Wikipedia, with minor modifications. The discussion is the important thing.
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    Rajputs were a dominant caste in Northwestern India, including the Punjab region, during the medieval period.

    According to the 1911 census in British India, the total Rajput population in the Punjab was 1,635,578,[1] of which 1,222,024 (74.5%) were Muslim, 388,744 (24%) were Hinduand (24,810) (1.5%) were Sikh. The region straddles the border between India and Pakistan and contains the "Five Rivers" – the Beas, Ravi, Sutlej, Chenab and the Jhelum River – all of which are tributaries of the Indus river. The people of the area are known as Punjabis and their language is also called Punjabi. The main religions of the Punjab region are Hinduism, Islam and Sikhism.

    Punjabi Rajputs are spread throughout Punjab region, with Muslim Rajputs being principally in*Pakistani Punjab*while both Hindu and Sikh Rajputs are mainly found inIndian Punjab.*
    Next came the Rajputs of the south-west of Punjab, roughly the*Seraiki*speaking region comprising the modern*Bahwalpur,*Dera Ghazi Khan*and*Multan*divisions. These tribes were hardly distinguished from the*Jat*clans in their neighbourhood, and for the most part belonged to the*Bhatti*of*Jaisalmer*and*Bikaner, and their*Panwar*predecessors. The Rajput clans of the south-west had converted to Islam in their entirety.[citation needed]The term Raja putra means the son of a Raja or king in*Sanskrit.[2]*In Punjab, the Rajputs can be loosely divided into five territorial groupings. The first grouping inhabited the territory that extended from the*Yamuna*valley to the*Ghaghar, roughly what is the modern state of*Haryana. Almost three quarters of them had converted to Islam, and these were referred to as*Ranghar. They belonged mainly to the*Chauhan*and*Tomar*sub-divisions, which gave*Delhi*its most famous Rajput dynasties.
    The third group comprised the Rajput clans of the*Salt Range, and the*Pothohar Plateau, who were split into numerous clans, either descended from the*Yaduvanshi*dynasty of Kashmir, the famous Raja Salvahan of*Sialkot, or the numerous Panwar tribes occupying the hills along the*Jhelum River. Like the Rajputs of the south-west, these tribes had almost entirely converted to Islam. The only exception were some members of the*Chib*and*Bhao*tribes, found in*Kharian, who had remained Hindu.[3]
    The fourth group comprised the Rajputs of the Punjab Hills, the modern territory of Himachal Pradesh,*Gurdaspur District*andHoshiarpur District. Some of these tribes are perhaps the most ancient of the Rajput tribes, the*Katoch*and the*Pathania*being the most famous, and were almost entirely Hindu, barring some clans of the lower hills, such as the*Sulehria*and*Katil*of the Katoch Clan, who had converted to Islam. The principalities of the Punjab Himalayas, were some of the oldest states in India.
    The final grouping were the Rajputs of central Punjab, roughly the area of the*Sandal Bar, Manjha,*Malwa*and*Doaba. The Bhattis,Kharals*and*Sials*predominated in the*Sandal Bar, the Bhatti predominated in the Bhattiana region, the modern districts of*Firozpurand*Sirsa, and the*Ghorewaha,*Manj*and*Naru*were found in the Sikh tract, who had held their own against the dominant*Jat Sikh*of the region.. In*Amritsar*and*Lahore, the Rajputs were mainly Bhatti and*Khokhar, with a sprinkling of Panwar and Chauhan. The Rajput clans were predominantly Muslim in this region, except along the borders with*Rajasthan, where there were communities of Hindu Rajputs, such as the Shaikhawat and*Rathore.[2]
    [edit]South Western Punjab
    The term Rajput is very rarely used on its own by the tribes that are indigenous to south west Punjab. In the*Bahawalpur Division, the distinction between tribes of Jat status and Rajput status is blurred. Tribes such as the*Soomra,*Samma,*Daher,*Kharal,*Saharan,Marral*a nd*Ghallu*are sometimes referred to as Jat, and sometimes as Rajput. The only exception are the Saharan,*Johiya*and*Wattu, who in popular estimation are always considered Rajput. Along the left bank of the Indus, from*Rahim Yar Khan District*to*Mianwali District, the term is rarely used by the tribes, with the notable exception of the*Tiwana*and*Noon*of the*Thal Desert, and the*Bhacharof*Wan Bachran, in*Mianwali. It is only when one reaches the Salt Range, that term Rajput comes into common usage. In the lands across the Indus, in the*North West Frontier Province, the Rajput disappears completely, and their place is taken by the*Baluch*andPashtun. In the*Dera Ghazi Khan District, the only indigenous tribe that calls itself Rajput, are the*Jamra, who use the title Jam, indicating*Sindhi*ancestry. Across the Indus, in*Muzafargarh, the Khera*Sial, Dhanotar and Panwar are the only tribes that claim Rajput tribes. In*Bahawalpur District, the Samma and Soomra are the principal Rajput tribes.[4]*The Rajput makes a reappearance in the valleys of the Jhelum and*Chenab, where the*Chadhar*and Sial are both tribes claiming*Agnivanshi*descent. In the*Sandal Bar, the*Waseer,*Kharal,*Wahiniwal, Wattu and Saharan, are all major Rajput tribes, the first two claiming to be Agnivanshi, while the next two claim to be*Chandravanshi, claiming a common origin with the Bhatti. But Saharan claim from Lord*Rama*and becomeSuryavanshi*Rajput and use title Shah, Rana, Chaudhary, Malik, Mahar. The upper part of the Sandal Bar, and the Bhattiore area ofChiniot District*was a stronghold of the Bhatti tribe. Further along the Jhelum river valley, the Khokhar and Bhatti founds in great numbers.
    Along the valley of the Sutlej river, the Wattu,*Johiya,*Baghela,*Lodhra*and Kathia are the predominant tribes. In and around the city of*Multan, the Khokhar and Bhatti clans such as the Mitru,*Kanju, Bosan and Noon predominate.[4]
    [edit]Pothohar Plateau
    The Pothohar Plateau and Salt Range is home to a large number of Rajput clans. The Rajputs are the largest ethnic group in the region, and are often referred to as the Rajah. The principal tribes are the*Satti, Bhatti, Panwar,*Minhas*and*Janjua. Many of these larger clans have splintered into numerous septs.[5][6]
    [edit]Central Punjab
    The Rajput of central Punjab historically occupied a region extending from*Faisalabad*in the west to*Patiala*in the east. According to the traditions of the various tribes, they are connected with the Rajputs of*Rajasthan. Their no historical records giving the account of the migration of the various Rajput tribes into the region. But tradition points the*Ghorewaha*to be the earliest inhabitants of the region. The Ghorewaha are said to be*Kachwaha*Rajputs, who emigrated from*Rajasthan, during the period of*Mohammed Ghori. Their original territory was the*Beas*Sutlej*Doab. Other important tribes of this region are the Manj,*Naru,*Taoni, and*Varya. In the districts of*Amritsar*and Lahore, the predominant tribes were the*Ghumman, while in*Sialkot District, the Rajputs of central Punjab met those of the hills. The*Ghummans*predominated in the plains, while the*Sulehria, Minhas and*Bhao*were found in the hilly part of the district. In the south, the Bhattiana region, covering the modern*Firuzpur*and Sirsa districts, was home to the Bhatti, and related tribes such as the*Dogar,*Johiya,*Mahaar,*Naipal, and Wattu.[7]
    [edit]Hindu Rajputs of Punjab

    See also:*Rajput clans of Lahore Division,*Rajput clans of Jalandhar Division,*and*Rajput clans of Ambala Division


    Gulab Singh of Jammu and Kashmir*(1792–1857) was the founder and first Maharaja of the princely state of Jammu and Kashmir,
    The Rajput clans of the what is now Himachal Pradesh, as well as the districts of Gurdaspur and Hoshiarpur remained Hindu. The Punjab Hill states were centres of some of the oldest Rajput states in India. The Hindu Rajputs of Gurdaspur and the Jammu region are referred to as the*Dogras. Prior to the*partition of India, Dogra settlements also extended to*Gujrat*and*Sialkot, where there were settlements of Bajju,*Bhao,*Chib,*Manhas, and*Sulehria*Rajputs.[8][page*needed]
    [edit]Jammu Region and Gurdaspur District

    The Rajputs of the Jammu border are confined to the hilly areas of Indian Punjab. They are classified on loose and ever shifting system of hypergamous grades. Thus in Jammu region, the Rajput are divided into four grades, with the Rajput of the first grade not giving wives to those clans who are considered not to be of the first grade, and so on. In addition to this division, they are also divided by the traditional division of*Suryavanshi, Chandravanshi and Agnivanshi. Here is a list of clans, starting with those deemed as first class:[2]
    The First Grade Suryavanshi clans
    Chattar
    Jamwal
    Jasrotia
    Mankotia
    The First Grade Chandravanshi clans
    Bandral
    Bhadwal
    Balauria
    Bhottial
    Bhadarwahia
    Kishtwaria
    Katoch
    Guleria
    Sabaia
    Jaswal
    Suketia
    Mandial
    Kullu
    Kalerie
    Sarmorie
    Singhi
    These clans are equal to each other in superiority. The second class clans are as follows:
    Second Grade Suryavanshi Clans
    Manhas
    Shau
    Tangral
    Second Grade Chandravanshi clans
    Ambarai
    Chib
    Jarral
    Bhao
    Third Grade Chandravanshi clans
    Rakwal
    Sulehria
    Charak
    Langeh
    Baghal
    Bajial
    Andotra
    Jaj
    Fourth Grade Chandravanshi Clans
    Mandial
    Raysial
    Kharakhatr
    Samsal
    Jaggi
    Lalotra
    Katil
    Bhalwal
    Hans
    Bajju
    Gori
    Rajput clans of the Suryavanshi and Chandravanshi sub-divisions intermarry; and Chandravanshi clans intermarry with each other. Each grade takes wives from a grade lower than itself. The only exception are the Chattari*Jamwal, who do not take wives from theManhas, as both clans descend from a common ancestor. While the Rakwal only give their daughters to the Jamwal and Manhas.[9]
    The Ambarai, Manhas, Chib, Bhao and Jarral intermarry with each other, and gives wives to the Rajput clans of the First Grade. While the Rakwal, Sulehria, Charak, Baghal, Langeh, Bojwal,*Andotra*intermarry, and give daughters to the Rajput clans of the first And Second classes, and receive daughters from the Rajput clans of the fourth class. In*Gurdaspur District, the Hindu Rajputss are found mainly in the hilly regions, along the border with*Jammu and Kashmir. Culturally, they are very close to the*Dogras, and like them have a system of hypergamous marriages. The following are the main clans, shown under the two sub-divisions, Chandravanshi and Suryavanshi.
    In Gurdaspur, the clans are divided into the kahri, or those who take wives and give wives to a particular clan, and the dohri or those who take wives and exchange wives with each other. The general rule in the community is that a higher clan should not give its daughter in marriage to a lower clan, but are allowed to take wives from the lower clans. Thus, the Tangral can take wives from the Katil, Lalotra and Kohal, and give wives to the Jarral, Sulehria and Indauria, the Kohal take wives from the Katil and Thakkar, and the Sulehria give wives to the Manhas, but take them from the Gahotra, Katil and Lalotra. This system of hypergamous marriage was discarded when the clans of the Jammu hills converted to Islam.[2]
    [edit]Himachal Pradesh

    The Hindu Rajput of*Hoshiarpur District*and Himachal Pradesh are also divided into numerous tribes, which are sub-divided into numerous sects. Those of the First Grade are:
    Pathania
    Katoch
    Chauhan
    Parmar
    Parihar
    Naroo
    Jaswal
    Sibae
    Dadwal
    Kahluria
    Kotlehria
    Hinduria
    Sirmuria
    Mankotia
    Mandial
    Badwal
    The Guleria, Sabaia, Dadwal and Jaswal are branches of the*Katoch*tribe, but now intermarry with each other.[10]


    Raja Brijmohan Pal Bahadur of Kutlehar, son of Raja Ram Pal Bahadur,*CSI,Kaiser-i-Hind
    [edit]Martial traditions

    The*Nishan-e-Haider*is the highest military award given by*Pakistan. It is also known as or*Hilal-e-Kashmir.[citation needed]*It was established in 1957 after Pakistan became a Republic, however, it was instituted retrospectively back to 1947. It is awarded to military personnel, regardless of rank, for extraordinary*bravery*in*combat.[11]*The award is considered to be the equivalent of the*Victoria Cross, the*Medal of Honor*and the*Param Vir Chakra. Its exclusivity may be gauged by the fact that since it was established only 10 awards have been made, along with one equivalent award. To date all awards have been made*posthumously. Of the 10 recipients, 9 have been from the*Pakistan Army, one has been from the*Pakistan Air Force. Five Rajputs was awarded Pakistan's top military honour, theNishan-E-Haider.
    Muhammad Sarwar
    Sawar Muhammad Hussain
    Major*Raja Aziz Bhatti
    Rashid Minhas
    Major Shabbir Sharif
    [edit]Notable people


    Raja Muhammed Sarfraz Khan*played an important role in the local politics during*Pakistan Movement
    Malik Khizar Hayat Tiwana*He was elected to the Punjab Legislative Assembly in 1937
    Feroz Khan Noon*was Chief Minister of the*Punjab*ana he was elected as the seventh*Prime Minister of Pakistan
    Dulla Bhatti*was a famous legendary Rajput hero of Punjab
    Allama Mashriqi*– Founder of the Khaksar Tehrik
    Chaudhry Aurangzeb Khan*– was a famous Minhas Rajput during the British era.
    Rai Bhoe Bhatti*– Founder of*Nankana Sahib).
    Rai Bular Bhatti*– his estate of over 100,000 acres (400*km2) in modern day Nankana Sahib District.
    Chaudhry Chaku Khan*– the founder of Chakwal in 1525 C.E.
    Raja Ghazanfar Ali Khan Khokhar*– one of Pakistan's first Federal Ministers.
    Iftikhar Khan*– He had been nominated to become the first local Commander in Chief of the Pakistan
    Chaudhry Aurangzeb Khan*– he was given the title of*Khan Bahadur*for his services
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    Brilliant thread - im grateful for the info sir.

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    Anybody have any historical references to the name Butt?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aryan_B View Post
    Anybody have any historical references to the name Butt?
    Yes. This is usually a high caste Brahmin converted to Islam. Typically a Kashmiri, but possibly a hills man from Himachal or a Punjabi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aryan_B View Post
    Anybody have any historical references to the name Butt?
    Well it was formed in England in 1066! Link

    I googled it up and came with this:

    Butt
    Main article: Butt (asian surname)

    Were Kashmiri Pandits before the advent of Islam. The majority today are Muslim. The word "Butt/Bhatt" is derived from Sanskrit (भट) meaning "scholar". The word exists in the famous 12 century A.D. history of Kashmir, even before the Semitic religion Islam came into the Valley. This, is strongly disputed. It is Aryan in origin.

    Bhat (Kashmiri: भट (Devanagari), بھٹ (Nastaleeq)), sometimes spelled as Butt (Pahari: بٹ), both of which are a shortened rendition of Bhatta (Kashmiri: भट्ट (Devanagari), بھٹٹ (Nastaleeq)),[1] is a Kashmiri surname, found among individuals native to the Kashmir Valley of Kashmir,[2] as well as Kashmiri émigrés who have migrated to the Punjab,[3][4] a region in Pakistan.[5] Kashmiris bearing the surname Bhat belong to the larger Bhat caste of Brahmins found in the rest of the India;[1][6][7] the surname is shared by both Hindus and Muslims.[8]
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    Etymology

    Historians state the surname is a distorted form of Bhatta, which originates from Sanskrit (भटट), meaning "scholar" according to Brāhmaṇa. While the original shortened rendition of the Bhate,"Bhatta" caste was "Bhat" or "Bhatt," many of the migrants to the Punjab, started spelling their surname as "But" or "Butt" which is the spelling of the clan used in the Pahari language.

    The reason that "Bhat" is used in Kashmir and "Butt" in Punjab is because at the time of the last British census the different governors of the two regions used different spellings. Since ancient times, Kashmiri traders used to spend summers at home in Kashmir preparing their goods (carpets, shawls etc.) and in the harsh winters they migrated to prosperous Punjab to trade their goods. Those that were trading in Punjab or resident in Punjab at the time of the census started spelling it "Butt" due to the British governors' interpretation. In 1947, those that were in Punjab generally just stayed there and kept using "Butt". Some that were resident in Punjab returned to Kashmir but continued using "Butt". They are the descendants of Kashmiri Pandits, most of whom have long since converted.
    Origins

    People named Bhat were said to be a clan of Brahmin descents of intellectual Vedic and Dardic saints that inhabited the banks of the Saraswati River, which ran dry around 2000 BC. This forced the community to migrate to Kashmir in search of "ultimate truth".

    The Bhat tribe is widespread throughout Kashmir. The Mir tribe is a sub clan of the Bhat tribe and has descended from the Bhat tribe. Butt may also be used to refer to people who are native to the Kashmir valley mainly from a city named Baramulla.

    Bhat clan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Shearer View Post
    Yes. This is usually a high caste Brahmin converted to Islam. Typically a Kashmiri, but possibly a hills man from Himachal or a Punjabi.
    Thanks Joe. Ive heard of this fact before

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neo View Post
    Etymology

    Historians state the surname is a distorted form of Bhatta, which originates from Sanskrit (भटट), meaning "scholar" according to Brāhmaṇa. While the original shortened rendition of the Bhate,"Bhatta" caste was "Bhat" or "Bhatt," many of the migrants to the Punjab, started spelling their surname as "But" or "Butt" which is the spelling of the clan used in the Pahari language.

    The reason that "Bhat" is used in Kashmir and "Butt" in Punjab is because at the time of the last British census the different governors of the two regions used different spellings. Since ancient times, Kashmiri traders used to spend summers at home in Kashmir preparing their goods (carpets, shawls etc.) and in the harsh winters they migrated to prosperous Punjab to trade their goods. Those that were trading in Punjab or resident in Punjab at the time of the census started spelling it "Butt" due to the British governors' interpretation. In 1947, those that were in Punjab generally just stayed there and kept using "Butt". Some that were resident in Punjab returned to Kashmir but continued using "Butt". They are the descendants of Kashmiri Pandits, most of whom have long since converted.
    Origins

    People named Bhat were said to be a clan of Brahmin descents of intellectual Vedic and Dardic saints that inhabited the banks of the Saraswati River, which ran dry around 2000 BC. This forced the community to migrate to Kashmir in search of "ultimate truth".

    The Bhat tribe is widespread throughout Kashmir. The Mir tribe is a sub clan of the Bhat tribe and has descended from the Bhat tribe. Butt may also be used to refer to people who are native to the Kashmir valley mainly from a city named Baramulla.

    Bhat clan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    There are Bhat Brahmins all over the country. They exist among the Konkanis, and among the Bengalis, where they are known as Bhatt-acharya, "those Brahmins who teach".
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    How about the name/clan Bhatti?

    Fascinating thread this, makes me realize I should have paid more attention to the conversations with my dad when he would explain the origins of the family, off shoots etc. Of course at the time it all seemed so boring. I'll have to get him to talk to me again about all this next time I call him.
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    About the Bhatti surname

    India In India, the Bhati/Bhatti reside mainly in the states of Uttar Pradesh, Haryana, Rajasthan and Punjab (where they have traditionally come to be known as Bhatti in Punjabi). Gujarat In Gujarat, Bhatis have several jagirs in the Sabarkantha and Banaskantha District (former Idar State), including Munai, Torda, Bhutiya, Gorad, Ranasan, Lauk, Muloj, Solsanda ,Bamanvad , Chandarni,Balva[Dist:Gandhinagar] and Rampur. Bhati Rajputs in Gujarat are descendants of 12th-century immigrants from Jodhpur and Jaisalmer districts in Rajasthan. Most of them either assisted the Rathores of Jodhpur to capture Idar or were their relatives. Bhatti Rajputs are also found, though fewer in numbers in the Rann of Kachchh, where they migrated from Rajasthan in the 18th century. Other Bhatti Rajputs settlements are also found in Jamnagar and nearby villages, formerly known as the "Halar State" ruled by the Jam dynasty. The Bhatti Rajputs of Jamnagar originate from bhalot and khombhadi Kachchh or Rajasthan. [edit]Punjab

    The Indus River In Punjab, there are several villages that are populated entirely by Bhatti. The historic Patiala and East Punjab States Union had a large concentration of Bhatti. Bhati Rajputs are found in the villages Sahlon,Rampur, Ghurial (Jalandhar), Rehla, Phuglana, Salah, Daroli, Machhli Kalan, Lalru, Jhawansa, Tardak, Joli,Rampur, Samgoli Nagla, Jhhanjeri, Cholta, Badali, Rangian, Magra, Gunnoo Bhattian,saharan chattha and Khellan-mallan, Killianwali (Mukatsar, Punjab), Shergarh (Dabwali, Sirsa, Haryana), and Sullar Gharat(sangrur, punjab). These Bhati migrated from Jaisalmer in the 12th century.

    Rajasthan In Rajasthan, they are found in the Jaisalmer, Bikaner, Jodhpur, Pali-Hingola Khurd, Akdawas, Sedariya, Barmer, and some tehsils of Gurdaspur, Shergarh Udaipur (Mohi) and Nagaur (Gaaju, Ladnun, Mugdara), Kishanghar (Tolamal Village) Ajmer.

    Uttar Pradesh There are about 360 Gujjars Bhati villages in the districts of Gautam Budh Nagar and Bulandshar in Uttar Pradesh.


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    The Bhatti tribe has acknowledged skills in building Havelis. The Bhatti tribe settled throughout the Indus River Valley, from Kashmir in the north to Thatta in the South. They have adapted in many cultures and speak a variety of languages. And also in rawalakot azad kashmir Punjab:In Dist Chakwal Tehsil Talagang there are many villages of Bhattis like Kichian Kotehra Bhattian Chinji Bhilomar Nagri where famous bhattis are living and they are farmers.They are living there from centures.Jhatla a famous village of talagang Manj are living there they are so belong bhatti clan.==Religion==Islam Bhati/Bhatti Rajputs are predominantly Hindus in India, while in Pakistan they are exclusively Muslims. When Bhatis migrated to the Punjab region centuries ago, the local Punjabi people called them "Bhatti Rajputs" in the local Punjabi language. The Sikh population of Bhatti Rajputs is found in the Doaba and Malwa regions of Punjab. There is no credible reference or evidence linking DogarTribes to Bhatti tribe. Bhattis, however, time and again try to link their ancestors to the Dogar tribe. [edit]Bhati tribes in the Indus River Valley


    Bhati clans in Sindh


    The Bhati tribe is known for its craftsmanship. The Muslim population of the Sindhi Bhattis is found predominantly in the Sindh province. In Sindh the major clans of Bhattis are the Dadani, Mahar, Mangrio, Bhutto, Kamario, Rajpar, Bhamban and Indhar. All Bhattis are related to Samma clans as they are Yadubansi too. For example, Abro's sub-clans (Mungrani, Kehar, Odho, Sarki, Bhootani, Pechoho, Unar, Khuhro, Bhayo, Junejo, and Phulpoto) are related to Bhattis. Bhati clans in Punjab There are about forty sub-branches of the Bhattis/Bhati. In Punjab the major clans of Bhattis are the Pensi and Keela. Many other Rajput tribes in Punjab trace their origin to the Bhatti. Some of these tribes include Mair Rajputs of Punjab, Rajput Jenjer/Janjar, Rajput Mers of Kathiawar, Rajputs of the Bajju clan as well as the famed Jats of the Sidhu and brar dynasty (currently ruling Patiala). Other Jat clans claiming Bhatti origin include the sidhu, Brar, Sahasi, and Manes clans. In addition the Manj Rajputs are also Bhatti. Other Rajput clans claiming Bhatti origin include the Alpial, Indhar (from which the Rais of Bhong are), Kalyar, Kanju, Uttera,dadra, Noon, Dhandla, Wattu, Bhabha, Diyal, Mittru, and Hattar. In Pakistani administered Kashmir, the Narma Rajputs also claim a Bhatti origin.

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    Etymologically, the name is related to Sanskrit bhat'ta ‘lord’ . This tribe is by far the largest and most widely distributed of the Rajput tribes of the Panjab. There is also an area in the Panjab called Bhattiana, which was once ruled by the Bhattis. Bhatti occurs as a personal name in Sanskrit literature and was the name of a well-known Sanskrit poet of the 6th century.
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    BHATTIANA , a tract of country in the Punjab province of India, covering the Ghaggar valley from Fatehabad in the district of Hissar to Bhatnair in Bikanir . It derives its name from the Bhattis, a wild Rajput clan, who held the country lying between Hariana, Bikanir and Bahawalpur . It skirts the borders of the great sandy desert, and only contains a small and scattered population . This tract was ravaged by Timur in his invasion of India; and in 1795 paid a nominal allegiance to George Thomas, the adventurer of Hariana . After the victories of Lord Lake in 1803 it passed with the rest of the Delhi territory under British rule, but was not settled until 181o . A district of Bhattiana was formed in 1837, but in 1858 it was merged in the Sirsa district, which was divided up in 1884 . The Bhattis number some 350,000, and are a fine tall race, making capital soldiers .

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    Quote Originally Posted by AgNoStIc MuSliM View Post
    How about the name/clan Bhatti?

    Fascinating thread this, makes me realize I should have paid more attention to the conversations with my dad when he would explain the origins of the family, off shoots etc. Of course at the time it all seemed so boring. I'll have to get him to talk to me again about all this next time I call him.
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    I am handicapped by working on a touchpad, but I'm working on the background and proto-history of the Rajputs, to begin with. Hope to do that with all the groups I can cover. Bear with me, and keep these amazing inputs coming.
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    Gen Kayani is a Rajput our family.
    Rajput as far as I know count themselves as a Marshal race of good stature. as a tradition tribal chieftains only marry outside the family if the other family has the equal stature and status in the society.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irfan Baloch View Post
    Gen Kayani is a Rajput our family.
    Rajput as far as I know count themselves as a Marshal race of good stature. as a tradition tribal chieftains only marry outside the family if the other family has the equal stature and status in the society.

    I rather suspect Kayani is an Iranian name. You might suspect in turn that it is due to my newly discovered Iran orientation, but I assure you that I am immune to possibilities of accelerated promotion from Hoj to Ay.

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